...But Tilly said those who get into an apprenticeship program could be making $30 an hour in four to five years. John Knabe, training director for the UA Local 375 JATC, a plumbers and pipefitters training committee, said he's heard talk...

...who think vocational training is a dumping ground for kids who can't cut the mustard in regular classes," observes John Knabe, apprenticeship coordinator for Plumbers and Steamfitters Local No. 375. "If kids don't have math and science...